Madison County Virginia Gigabit Internet

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Gigabit For All



Our Goals

  • Gigabit internet speed (10-50X faster than what you have)
  • At every home and business in Madison County
  • Works with any device you have: PC, Mac, iPad, smart phone
  • Within 5 years -- OR LESS!
  • Unlimited Data
  • No Towers
  • Reliability better than satellite, approaching buried fiber. Depends on mix of fiber and wireless
  • BYOD (router, etc) possible/likely (we'll probably insist it be a firewall)
  • 10 Gigabit speed (4K movies) eventually
  • We will work with you to add fiber where it isn't, unlike the other guys
  • Owned, managed, operated in Madison County
  • Local hires where possible
  • Target pricing: $75/month price target for homes, $150 for business. If we have to have a cheaper tier, it won't include full gigabit; probably still faster than other choices.
  • Install cost: Zero, I hope. If we supply router to you, then whatever that costs.

Why is this important?

What was the most important piece of man-made public infrastructure prior to 1900?

Roads.
Highway Highway 401 in Toronto

No roads means no movement of people or goods. The best you get is what you can carry in your hands, and you only walk to your neighbors' houses through 3-foot high weeds. Except where their goats eat it to the ground. Ugh.

Roads let people and goods move from anywhere to anywhere else. Better roads mean more and faster.

The invention of the wheel means horse-cart and ox-cart, you now have something that holds a lot more than you can, and an animal that pulls it. That means you need wider roads, and wider still when you have to pass someone going the other way.

Cars and trucks are better, but they're just fancier horse-carts, they don't introduce new public infrastructure. Well, they do, but it's private gas stations. Granted, the conversion from horses to cars happens really fast, but that's for other reasons. Railroad is important, but that's just a specialized kind of road.

Roads are pervasive, and civilization cannot get along without them. But they've been around for millenia, and we don't really build them very fast, although that's more about materials and automation and wrangling over where to put them.


What is the most important piece of man-made infrastructure after 1900?

Electricity.
This is a Getty image This isn't a picture of actual electricity, just the way it gets to you

Once Edison invents a practical lightbulb, everyone wants indoor lights that won't burn your house down. And that means electricity has to be delivered everywhere.

Electricity distribution happens pretty fast, taking really only a few decades to go from nowhere to everywhere. Getting to have electricity depends on having roads to transport all those poles and wires.

Civilization cannot get along without electricity. It is pervasive, and ubiquitous. It doesn't even occur to you that there's somewhere you can go that won't have it. Virtually everything we use takes electricity.


What is the most important piece of man-made infrastructure after 2000?

Yeah. It's the Internet.
This is a shutterstock image It's NOT a series of tubes

It IS pervasive, and it IS ubiquitous (more or less), but at the same time it's still limited--just like some places have superhighways and others have dirt roads, some places have very high-speed service, and others only have dialup.

Dialup internet service is like saying "yes I have electricity, and I can run a 60-watt lightbulb!"

If every household in Madison was using dialup at the same time, that STILL wouldn't total a gigabit.

A lot of the rest of the world is using very high speed internet as basic infrastructure. It is pervasive, and ubiquitous.

Internet distribution happens phenomenally fast, taking really only a one decade to go from nowhere to everywhere. Getting to have the internet depends on having electricity, which depends on roads.

Civilization cannot get along with the internet. Not any more. And never again.


And yet, few of us have service speed that is anywhere near what is readily possible with today's networking hardware. We are stuck with feeble speeds, which severely limit our abilities. Not because there is a technical limitation--network speeds casually exceed 10 gigabits for wired networks in a computing center, and you can do it at home if you want--but because no one is clamoring for it. And it's true that infrastructure costs aren't trivial. But compare what exists for satellite delivery with locations that have "fiber to the home", i.e., gigabit service.

With satellite, streaming video is possible, but iffy. With gigabit, it's trivial--you do it all the time.

And we owe it to ourselves and our children and grandchildren to bring it here. Starting now.

"The greatest natural resource that any country can have is its children." - Danny Kaye

And we need to do the best we can for them.

What's a Gigabit?

One DVD = 2 GigaBYTES = 16 GigaBITS

~ Download 1 DVD movie in 2-3 minutes, a BluRay ~ 15 minutes

What can you do with it?
  • Photos -- 1 second -- that email of grandkids pictures
  • Songs -- 1 second -- that new song by The Beatles
  • YouTube -- watch lolcat videos live
  • Games -- CoD, WoW, no lag, full speed. Steam install DOOM in an hour or two, not a day or two! (Well, depends on how fast Steam is)
  • Netflix, Hulu, etc -- watch full speed, no lag/pause
  • Streaming video -- Walking Dead full speed no lag
  • Skype -- with your deployed spouse
  • VPN -- will actually work (no go on satellite)
  • Your online business
  • Something new no one has thought of!

    Remember that 20 years ago (1997), Google was a research project, Amazon only sold books, and Mr Facebook was in Junior High...

Instantly Responsive. No weird delays waiting for images to download. Unless it's goofed up on the other end--we can't fix that.
thermometer graph of speed comparison

Not included:

  • Email service. Use GMail, Yahoo, etc. They're good, and it's yours forever.
  • Web hosting. Use GoDaddy, 1And1, etc. They're good too
  • File storage. Use DropBox, etc. Also good
  • TV. Go to "abc.com", "syfy.com", etc.
  • Telephone. Use Skype. Or WiFi calling. We won't have integrated service.
  • Content monitoring. NSA can figure it out themselves.

THIS IS THE FAST-LANE ON-RAMP, NOT THE DO-EVERYTHING QUICKIE-MART AT THE INTERSECTION

Limitations

The standard limitations apply: the Internet is like driving your car around. Some roads are faster than others. Some times of day are faster than others. Sometimes there's a slowdown for no reason you can see, and suddenly it clears up. If your speed is slow sometimes, it ain't us!

The rated speed of the network is not the same as the download speed you can see various places. Remember the bits versus bytes deal: 8 bits equals one byte. Network speed is in bits, your data is in bytes.

Want to download a movie? Please do it overnight, or in the afternoon. If everyone tries to do this at 8pm, it's going to be like I-495 rush-hour.

Is it really possible to reach that top speed? (here comes the fine print)

Yes and no.

Remember bumper cars at Kings Dominion? You all go around in a loop, but you do bump into other things a lot. Sometimes it's pretty smooth looping, sometimes not. If you were on the track all alone, and there aren't any other cars, well, yes, you can hit pretty close to top speed.

Network traffic travels in "packets" where a packet carries a bunch of "bytes" but also has a lot of "overhead" (extra bytes having to do with destination and routing and stuff); that overhead is about 1/3 of the actual bits that get on the network. Your DVD movie download of 2 gigaBYTES (aka 16 gigaBITS) is going to take about 25 gigaBITS on the network, and recent experience suggests that will, under the best possible circumstances, take about a minute.

Here's an option for you: Click here to do a speed test of the service you already have. The numbers you get will vary with time of day...middle of the night is definitely going to be faster; 4pm, not so much. Today, at 10 pm, I got (ping) 632, (Down) 2.52, (Up) 0.73, on satellite. On your cellphone you'll have to download an app from speedtest to measure that. With 2 bars of Sprint LTE I got 681, 1.75, and 1.69. The meaning of those numbers is (ping) smaller is better, (down) larger is better, (up) larger is better, and you'd like up and down to be about the same.

Madison Gigabit intends that our service numbers will be 5, 850, 850. We'll see how that turns out :)

My best experience recently is that when I direct-connected a pair of computers with a gigabit wire was that I moved about 2 gigaBYTES per minute; the test was actually about 25 gigabytes and it took about 12 minutes. So I expect that's the real peak speed we can hope for. I have gotten faster than that, nearly 3 gigaBYTES per minute, with faster computers (or perhaps it was faster internal disks).

I can't even test a 10 gigaBIT service speed because I don't personally have any hardware like that yet.

What is this going to cost?

The target is $75 per month. That will be all the features we care about--full gigabit speed, no data-limit. FIOS in Richmond is that price, for their gigabit service, with their infrastructure and population density.

If we need a cheaper price per month it won't be gigabit.

May be possible: 10 gigabit speed service for some nearby customers/users. That's going to be pricey, maybe $500 per month, because that is requiring fancier hardware that costs more. After 5-10 years (sooner if possible), that will become the standard service speed. We aren't trying to do this yet, and won't for a few years at the least.

Eventually of course we will be aiming for fiber direct to all homes in the county. That's going to be pricey, too. No idea how we accomplish/pay-for that one. The fiber itself is about 50 cents per foot, but the labor cost is ~$5 per foot.

I want it NOW!

Well, me too.

Become an investor. The sooner there is money, the sooner we are getting done. Contact us to see the business plan.

So what is the plan?

  • First: tap a fiber trunk somewhere convenient in Madison. Build NOC. Cost swag: turns out this won't have an up front cost. Yay!
  • Second: using wireless, work the solution in town. Comcast is already present there, but not everyone has it. Cost swag: $20K
  • Third: Pull fiber to the named villages (Syria, Etlan, Rochelle, Hood, etc). Either use very high-speed wireless from there, as repeaters, and receivers at homes, or fiber all the way. Cost swag $10 million.
  • Fourth: continue to pull fiber until that reaches every household. Cost swag $10 million.
  • Fifth: Figure out how to work with Dominion and their pole structure. Cost swag: $1 million.

What we don't know yet is whether the wireless/repeaters approach is any cheaper than fiber everywhere. It might not be.

Basically we will begin with some very fast wireless, and back-fill with fiber as we push out of town and as customers are signing up.

Progress:

  • We now have an office location, our starting NOC. We are there during normal working hours, and we are happy to talk at other times, too. 200 Washington Street, Madison, Virginia. (AKA "the little bank building", just off Main Street)
  • March 5, 2018. We have signed the contract with Lumos to bring fiber to our building. Time estiamte on this is July 1 (later than I'd have preferred).
  • We have a prelim verbal agreement with REC about being able to use their poles
  • We are in pursuit of various preliminary costing info.
  • A proposal from a potential sub-contractor indicates that their cost to bury is the same as their cost to elevate. This is an interesting situation--arguing that we should bury things as much as possible, after that wind-storm on March 2nd.
  • Realized that the likeliest reason for ongoing repair maintenance might be ice storms. Ouch. Buried fiber?

In the News

Contacts:

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I want to invest
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  • Network Engineer
  • Social Media and this website
  • Funding pursuit

Show me the coverage maps

Where is it available today?
Where is it next?

If you need internet service today, satellite is your best choice, most likely. If you live in the town of Madison, Comcast is probably best.

Where else you can find us

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Fwiw: the picture in the background is Madison County, near the east edge, looking towards Old Rag